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    • #25959
      LUNARASTRO108
      Keymaster

      Hello All- In BPHS- Chapter 18- Shlok 22-42 deals with timing of events related to Marriage.

      Let us all start from Shlok 22 which states- If 7th lord is in a benefic house (5 or 9) while Venus is exalted -native will marry at age of 5 or 9.

      Can we now test with the different combinations what can be the marriage age in this? such as 7th lord in 5th house – one of the marriage will be 27 as using the 12 year cycle in the chart.

      Let us now bring charts with 7th lord in 5th and 9th with marriage ages.

    • #26150
      Namrta
      Participant

      Hello sir,
      I have narrowed my search to scorpio asc (to combine the search criteria of venus exalted and 7th lord in 5th house)
      few data points from astro data bank-
      1) Maud Adams – has 7th lord venus exalted in 5th house. married at the age of 21
      2) Robert Amadou- has 7th lord venus exalted in 5th house. married at the age of 24
      3) Amdrew welsh- has 7th lord venus exalted in 5th house. married at the age of 27
      will run similar searches with other asc to see if the result varies, but it looks like a formula of 9+12 and thereafter every three years. Regards, Namrta

    • #26231
      User AvatarGirish
      Participant

      Hello Sir, This topic made me laugh as i am Scorpio asc and 7th lord Venus in Pisces in 5th House. I completed 26 years on 2006 and on the first day of 27th year i got married. 5th house as per the planetary code was activated. i will start research on others in the 9th house and 5th house.

    • #26325
      LUNARASTRO108
      Keymaster

      I think what Rishi Parashar wanted to convey was – If both lord and karakas are well placed -events happens easily when that house is activated but until and unless we test it on several charts we will never know exception on this.

      @Namrata- The three names you have given – I could not find their details in Astrodatabank- Please post with birth charts so we can learn about exceptions of the charts.

    • #26356
      User AvatarHarjindar
      Participant

      Hello Sir

      Like Namrta I also narrowed down to Scorpio ascendant and Venus is 7th lord exalted in 5th house Pisces.

      1. Chelsea Clinton -born 27/2/1980. Scorpio ascendant. Venus exalted in Pisces 5th house.
      Married 31/7/2010 age 30 Engaged 2009 at age 29.
      2. Jack Abramoff – born 28/2/59. Scorpio ascendant. Venus exalted in Pisces 5th house
      Married 1986 at age 27
      3. Shirley Jane Temple – born 23/04/1928 Scorpio ascendant Venus exalted 5th house
      Married 1945 at age 17.

      Will try to do the other one where 7th lord in 9th house

    • #26362
      User AvatarDEEPAK POKHRIYAL
      Participant

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      Above native is born in 25th march,1995 and her 27th year is running as per 12 years per house system.She is gpoing to be engaged on 24th and planning to get married on makar sakranti next year.
      As sir said 7th karak and lord to be well placed like in 5th and 7th houses then person gets married easily.In above chart karak guru is well placed in 5th but lord is not in good postion ie 8th house.Native did not consult family members for the marriage and tried to contacted groom’s family members herself.She got this offer through matrimonial site.Family members are not happy with her decision and just involved to get her to marry fast as this girl is quite problamatic.So in 27th year she is getting engaged and married however not easily.
      I have just covered this live example around me and not astro bank data.For sure i also look for astro data bank charts.

    • #26382
      Manali
      Participant

      Native born on 22/3/1986, 23:43 pm, Mumbai,Scorpio ascendant, 7th Lord Venus exalted in 5th house, got married on 5/5/2011 at the age of 26 and got a child on 6/4/2012 at the age of age of 27

    • #26395
      User AvatarDEEPAK POKHRIYAL
      Participant


      Above chart dob is 4 june 1983 and got married in 26th june,2010 when 28th year was just started(22 days above 27 year completion) but yes got engaged with in 27 years. His venus is in 5th house ie 27 year running when native got engaged.

    • #26398
      User AvatarDEEPAK POKHRIYAL
      Participant

      NOT ABLE TO GENERATE THE LINK FOR CHART AS WELL AS ABOVE CHART IS 2ND EXAMPLE OF MARRIAGE IN 27TH YEAR.

    • #26437
      Jyotika
      Participant

      I knew a native who has Scorpio ascendent Venus exalted in 5th house with moon ketu and merc native started love affire at the age of 17 and got married in 20th year asper the house code 20th year will be in 9th house and 9th lord in 5thwith exalted venus native got socially approved marriage. Asper my understanding though itwas very difficult to approve as native got easily married to one of their relative.so here venus and 9thlord must have played great role .

    • #26481
      User AvatarGirish
      Participant

      1.Maud Adams
      DOB:- Feb 12 1945
      Maud Adams
      Married first age of 21 in 1966. Married second age 0f 54 in 1999.
      In both cases her 10th house Leo was active in 10house. Sun being karaka for 5th house i think Venus got activated and Sun with mars in 3rd house makes a connection of Venus and Mars and she got married.

      2.Jack Abramoff
      DOB:-Feb 28 1959

      Married at age of 27 in 1986.
      Venus in 5th house and Mars in 7th house which makes Venus and mars activated which helped. Karkara of 7th house Venus and Venus being exalted helped.

    • #26492
      Namrta
      Participant

      Hello Sir, these are the chart details. the charts are all AA rated. their marriage year is as per google search.
      1) Maud Adams – has 7th lord venus exalted in 5th house. married at the age of 21
      Date of Birth : 12:02:1945
      Time : 03:35:00
      City : Lulea
      2) Robert Amadou- has 7th lord venus exalted in 5th house. married at the age of 24
      Date of Birth : 16:02:1924
      Time : 03:00:00
      City : Bois Colombes
      3) Andrew welsh- has 7th lord venus exalted in 5th house. married at the age of 27
      Date of Birth : 19:04:1944
      Time : 00:54:59
      City : Glasgow

    • #26508
      Priya
      Participant

      Native born on 22/04/1984, 21:30 pm, Nashik, Scorpio ascendant, 7th Lord Venus exalted in 5th house n Rahu in 7th house, got married on 7/12/2008 at the age of 25

      • #26647
        Namrta
        Participant

        @ priya Ji “Native born on 22/04/1984, 21:30 pm, Nashik, Scorpio ascendant, 7th Lord Venus exalted in 5th house n Rahu in 7th house, got married on 7/12/2008 at the age of 25”

        In this case, at the age of 25, the third house of capricorn gets activated. Saturn which is sitting in Libra and moves 7 house in the D9 is giving the marriage.

    • #26511
      Priya
      Participant

      Native born on 01/04/75, 09:35Am, Nashik, Taurus ascendant, 7th Lord mars exalted in 9th house , Rahu n moon in 7th house, got married on 11/12/1999 at the age of 25

    • #26513
      Namrta
      Participant

      Hello sir,

      So I did some more research with other asc as well. For example
      Laura Pausini, Libra asc with Mars in gemini (7th lord in 9th) and venus exalted. Married at the age of 31 (dictum matches I think)
      Date of Birth : 16:05:1974
      Day : Thursday
      Time : 17:00:00
      City : Faenza

      I started to think that the deviation of age 21 and 24 is only in case of scorpio asc as venus also acts 7th lord.
      However, the following chart also had marriage at age of 24 for a gemini asc
      Elisabeth Garouste โ€“ gemini asc- 7th lord ju in 5th, venus exalted. Married at the age of 24. Birth details-
      Date of Birth : 17:07:1946
      Time : 05:00:00
      City : Paris

    • #26527
      User AvatarGirish
      Participant

      Namrata ji
      I observed 2 things for Laura. One was she is not married. just staying with partner as per Wiki. Plus the calculation you mentioned earlier that 9+12 and every 3 years also does not match as she started with partner at age of 31 which was activating her 9th house which is 7th Lord.
      Can you please give more clarity
      Laura

      • #26644
        Namrta
        Participant

        @Girish Ji- apologies, it was an attempt at breaking down the pattern which doesnt seem right.

        I think what the shloka says that if venus is exalted and 7th lord in 5th house then marriage will be in 5th year or thereafter using progression would be in either of 16, 27, 38 years and so on and if venus is exalted and 7th lord is in th 9th house then the marriage is in the 9th year or thereafter in any of 20, 31, 42 and so on

        for deviations in charts many of us have shared, we need to check whats causing the deviation. I havent done that exercise yet.

    • #26567
      Jyotika
      Participant

      I did some more research in these following charts:
      1. Elizabeth Taylor : married at the age of 18 scorpio ascendent 7th lord exalted in 5th house.
      2.Bo :Taurus ascendent 7th lord exalted in 9th house.fall in love at the age of 16 got married at the age of 19th with the same John derek.here one thing i observe that though the karak venus in libra(wellplaced) but in sixth house still giving early marriage.
      3.Demi moore : Aquarius ascendent 7th lord in deblited in 9th with venus got married at the age of 17.
      As above sir mentioned above karaka and 7th lord is most important role in giving early marriage.one confusion here in demi moore chart 7th lord is deblited in 9th house still giving early martiage.

    • #26650
      User AvatarSarwan Kumar
      Participant

      Pranam Sir

      I have checked in following chart.

      Birth Detail. 18 OCT 1979, Time 15.16.16 After BTR. Place Jalandhar Punjab, Coordinates 75E34’00”,31N19’00”.

      ASC: Aquarius.

      Ke- Lagna

      Ma- 6th House cancer Debilitated

      Sa-Ra-Ju – 7th House Leo

      Mo- 8th House Virgo

      Ve-Su-Me – 9th House Libra.

      So 7th Lord Su goes to 9th House Libra and Venus in Libra in Own Rashi. Marriage happens in start of 31 year on Nov 2009.

      What i understood from the shaloka that when the 7th lord in 5 or 9 House and Venus is in Own house or in Exalted House. The marriage will happen on the activation age of that house where 7th lord is placed.
      In this chart the 7th lord is in 9th House and 9th house is activated at the age of 31.

    • #26652
      Namrta
      Participant

      @Jyotika ji –
      Elizabeth Taylor’s chart is interesting. even though 7th lord venus is exalted and in 5th- its sitting with Rahu which is placed in the 8th house in D9. so Rahu blocked the marriage at age 16 and only when the 7th house taurus was activated in age 18, did she get married.

      I think one base rule that applies to the dictum is that venus should be in exaltation.

    • #26664
      Jyotika
      Participant

      @Namrtaji Yes I believe so and rahu may have given multiple marriage though I have not checked the D9 chart the dictum says on rashi chart.so I only following the rashi chart.As per sir age is mentioned 27and I may be incorrect Taurus has to play a role.as perrashi house 27 is the house of taurus.even I observed on some cases 7th lord well placed also work.not only exaltation of venus.

    • #26777

      Native born on 1 December 1984
      Time of birth 17:05
      Place of birth pali rajasthan
      Taurus ascendant,7 lord mars exalted in 9 house.
      Date of marriage 17 April 2008

    • #26778
      kapil khandelwal
      Participant

      Concept Is- 7 th lord in 5th or 9th ( mens well placed ) and Venus is in own sign or in exaltation like in 5th or in 9th
      27 th year or 31st year marriage.
      and we check for exception..

    • #26938
      Deep Das
      Participant

      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yax1s4Eyrs0SU799uSCaaKpI7AATv0lY/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=116309436295062678902&rtpof=true&sd=true

      I have compiled like 20 charts with 7th lord in 5H/9H and respective ages. Attached the link above.

    • #27086
      User Avatarsanket
      Participant

      Drew Barrymore
      22/02/1975
      Marriage Date: 20/03/1994
      Age 19 years
      Taurus ASC , Mars in 9th house and Venus in Pisces .

      Janine Haines
      08/05/1945
      MARRIAGE DATE: 13 MAY 1967
      AGE: 22 YEARS
      Scorpio ASC , Venus in 5th house in Pieces.

      Mariah Carey
      27/03/1970
      1st Marriage Date: 5 June 1993
      Age : 23 Years

      2nd Marriage 30 April 2008
      Age: 38 Years
      again she is Scorpio ASC , Venus in 5th house in Pieces.

      Robert M. Jaffe
      17/04/1944
      Marriage : August 1968
      Age: 24 years
      He is also Scorpio ASC , Venus in 5th house in Pieces.

      Still searching for more ASC.

    • #27138
      User AvatarHarjindar
      Participant

      @ Deep Das ji, how did you enter the search criteria in Astro databank? Thank you

    • #27209
      LUNARASTRO108
      Keymaster

      @Deep das ji thank you for the hardwork of compiling charts as it helped quickly scan through all of them-
      I think the rule is when there are benefics in 7th like Venus or Moon even with debilated contdition -Marriage happens early but the moment 7th house get malefic like Mars or Saturn -there is delay in marriage.

      If you look at first chart where 7th lord -its dispositor and conjuctions and aspects all are malefics but still married at 27 as Venus is in 7th house although debilated.

      While malefics don’t like any other human when placed in 7th house.

      • #27216
        Deep Das
        Participant

        @Deepanshu Giri

        Absolutely Sir! it is becoming clear slowly, will keep compiling and researching,
        THank you!

    • #27218
      Deep Das
      Participant

      @Harjindar ji,
      There was an issue posting the comment. I have added the method in the same google doc’s first page.

    • #27225
      Anilastro
      Participant

      RESPECTED SIR,
      NATIVE – ANITA, DOB 5/5/1970, POB – MUMBAI, TOB- MORNING 09.41AM, SHE IS GEMINI ASCENDANT, 7TH LORD JUPITER IN 5TH HOUSE IN LIBRA, GOT MARRIED ON 20TH DEC, 1992, 23RD YEAR RUNNING, THIS MAY BE BECAUSE HER VENUS AND MARS IS IN 12TH HOUSE TAURUS AND AS PER HOUSE SYSTEM 23 YR COMES IN 12TH HOUSE.

    • #27368
      User AvatarGirish
      Participant

      @DeepDas ji. I have questions on the calculations of the 9th house when 7th lord is placed in that house. Based on 12 year progression based on my understanding 9, 9+12=21, 33, 45 should be the case. I think i am missing something as similarly i was not able to follow some of the calculations of 5th house when it as the 7th lord. Can you please help with the calculations. thanks a lot for your help.

      • #27462
        Deep Das
        Participant

        @Girish ji
        5H will be activated at years : 5, 16, 27, and so on
        Similarly 9H will be : 9, 20, 31 and so on

        It’s as per the house code on 12 year cycle.
        You can also add 11 to each consecutive year.

    • #27677
      User AvatarAnkit Patel
      Participant

      Hi all, here is the excel sheet for the data of some charts where venus is exalted and 7th lord in 5/9 house. I have searched for like 250 charts on Lunar astro data bank. I have only focused and not yet reserched but I wil try to finish all the charts and compile one by one. But just for some reference plz add whatever you think. Thanks.

      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yOGjBPZaY8SdEYDo9M7uO6wpNcri61s7/edit#gid=1148970479

      The dictum also says for Venus in own house , I will do it later because there are multiple factors involved.

    • #27756
      Deep Das
      Participant

      @AnkitPatel thanks so much, Also can you please make the access public for the link?

    • #27768
      User AvatarAnkit Patel
      Participant

      Sure did it can others plzcheck let me know

    • #29189
      User AvatarAnkit Patel
      Participant

      Hi all, can we have discussion for this verse as what i have observed there is no exact match for the ages โ€ฆ.. i have seen 30 charts but they seem to quite deviateโ€ฆ.. may be We lack somethingโ€ฆ. Its very vast dictum though

      • #43567
        Kamal
        Participant

        Hi Ankit,

        The deviation is because of two things:

        1. 7th lord should be a shubha rashi and not shubha bhava.. so rashis of mercury moon venus jupiter will come into picture.

        2. Venus has to be swa or uchha.. meaning own house or exalted.. not just exalted

        These are my observations as per sanskrit shloka.

        When I looked at the charts compiled by Aseem from this angle, these quite sum up. We have to ignore houses where venus is not in libra, taurus or pisces. and 7th lord not in benefic sign.

        Thanks
        Kamal

    • #40617
      User AvatarIndu
      Participant

      I am considering Mahatma Gandhi Chart to be Libra Lagna – Venus in the Lagna with 7th Lord Mangal,ย  and Jupiter is aspecting Lagna from 7th House – Got married at age of 13 years (after completing one cycle)

    • #42409
      User AvatarAseem Mehta
      Participant

      Hello Everyone,

      I have looked at a few charts. Here is the link to the research done – https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uSCSUIG6BnF9_FTEYBRHmO6a2UZ6vMQZakFr1ku_8EQ/edit?usp=sharing

    • #46133
      Shivkesh
      Participant

      one chart i know she has 7th lord mars in 9th house with deblitated jupitor and dispositor saturn is in lagna and lagan lord is in 11th house in pisces with sun..so she gets married at the age of running 22nd year..11th house was running and exalted venus with sun placed there..its dispositor jupitor is sitting in 9th house with 7th lord exalted mars…

    • #164259
      Ripudaman Tiwari
      Participant

      There is a difference in 10 mint times, which is changing Navansh if it is more or less. Questions for marriage. Anyone can give opinion in this chart.

      Dob 12-05-1996 time 08:53 to 9 Am

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